It amazes me that cis people think they aren’t transphobic when it takes years for trans people to unlearn internalized transphobia
and that’s when they’re actively educating themselves, thinking about it constantly, and have intense motivation to unlearn that shit. Cis people? Do nothing of the kind and have no such motivation.
Exactly why every cis person whose says they are not transphobic is lying.
Also here’s a reminder that appropriately inappropriate is a stalker who stalks trans women and made sock puppets for this particular purpose, but was caught admitting to which sock puppets she had.
I will say that it is possible to internalize self hatred that intense. The thankfully limited experiences I had with HBSers has them taking the approach that there is a concrete difference between transgender and transsexual and as you can see auntyorthodox very carefully marked herself as transsexual and everyone else as transgender.
To them transgender is the falsehood, non female, non woman, male and men. To them transsexuality is the reality, female, woman, not male or men. They do this by appropriating intersex experiences to lay a claim to an intersex brain condition (Harry Benjamin Syndrome was the first invocation of this really problematic theory, hence HBSer) and believe that somehow makes them different.
In reality they still have the same bodies that we have and their attacks would still hit them, making them male as well. But they ignore reality and create a denial based separation to try to divert hatred from them to easier targets and allow them to slip into the masses of cis people unnoticed.
They’re a holdover from the 70s, possibly earlier.
Wow… if Auntyorthodox isn’t a sockpuppet, I feel really, really bad for the awful life and piles of self-loathing she must have lead to make her side with TERFs who actively call for the deaths of trans people, rather than actual trans people. I mean, I’ve seen some trans women put out the argument “we have male biology,” which I don’t agree with but can understand where they’re coming from. But she isn’t just arguing in her posts that trans women have male anatomy, but that we’re male.
What the fuck?!
I see this claim about radical feminists calling for the death of trans people all the time, but I’ve never actually seen a radical feminist say anything like that. So where is this happening?
Transmisogynist Exterminationist Radical Feminists (TERFs because some radical feminists are ok? And not transmisogynist? It’s not common though.) generally use very subtle language.
"Morally mandating out of existence"
"You don’t exist and you shouldn’t exist"
A lot of it orientates around denial of resources. They speak with their actions more than their words. Denial of medical care (esp transition care, Janice Raymond’s writings are the driving force behind defunding any and all trans healthcare and why we’re still fighting even now to have any sort of insurance coverage and mind you she purposefully wrote this proposal to the US government to do this), denial of housing and employment (radscum like to out trans women, knowing this will result in the denial of those two, they often even admit they know trans women don’t get jobs when we’re known to be trans), denial of bathroom use (Cathy Brennan teamed up with an ex Gay org to harass a minor in a hoax about that young girl that claimed she was harassing cis girls in the bathroom. The ex gay org later claimed our very existence is harassment. She cosigned this. Most terfs cosign this.)
That actually brings me to one of the other exterminationist phrases. That our very existence is harassment, rape and danger. We’re banned from women only spaces regularly, even though we face more rape and more dv and more harassment (including by cis women instead of vice versa, not just by cis and trans men) and expected to be among men where we’re in even more danger than cis women of similar other oppressions.
Basically all of these terfs’ actions orientate around destroying us. So they don’t outright state that they want all trans women to die but everything they do is designed to kill us through denial of necessary survival needs or by putting us in dangerous situations where violence will happen.
I find the whole “exterminating us through actions rather than words” far more terrifying than “calling for our destruction in words alone”.
But I guess that’s just me.
Kinsey beat me to it, but yes: Most TERFs are all to happy to murder trans women at range to keep their hands clean. They try to keep us out of jobs, out of homes, away from medical care, and out of shelters, preferring to let cold or starvation or illness or our own hopelessness make the final blow, but if you think for a second that there wouldn’t be more trans women alive today if not for TERFs battling hard to keep us at the periphery of society, then you’re deluding yourself.
And then of course, there are those times when they say it out loud, collected over the years from some of my favorites:
"They expect we’ll be shocked to see statistics about them being killed, and don’t realize, some of us wish they would ALL be dead."
"Fucking mutants. When will there ever be a male-only deadly disease taking over the earth to put them out of their misery, huh?"
"If we’re going that road, why not just cull boy babies for awhile? Re-establish a sane balance. Then we can start selective breeding programs for donor males…"
"It might be well and good to “educate” them but that seems to take decades. Only if you are dedicated to educating the Terminally Stupid should you embark on this…Detachment is the key to emotional survival in a world plagued by males. Otherwise you really do just want to shoot them on sight."
"Fed up with those fucking trannies saying they are womyn. They need to get blasted too. They’re men."
"Not at all, Maggie. In fact, I’m one of those bad, shameful feminists who wish we could all just kill the fuckers."
"terfs are incapable of oppressing trans women!!!!" lol
lmfao @ trans exclusionary radical feminists saying “why are you so mad at us go be mad at the men who physically attack you instead. we just theoretically dont want you to exist”
its like wow yeah it’s very harmless when you actively try to “morally mandate [transgender people] out of existence” through cool and awesome nonviolent means like completely fictionalizing inflammatory accounts of children being uncomfortable around their transgender peers  and feeding them to  extremist christian news sources , the daily mail  and fox news to try and propagandize the panicked opposition to lawmaking efforts  that would decriminalize the existence of transgender people and increase safety for trans people, including students and children 
like hahaa yeah the way you intentionally lie to attack the safety of children is really harmless!!!! i love how radical feminists expose children to potentially violent situations  and make them want to kill themselves in order to further their own political aims!! 
i also love it when radical feminists call the workplaces  and health care providers  of trans people to try and financially attack them or prevent them from having access to medicine!! it makes me very happy when radical feminists try and use institutionalized police harassment as a tool to ruin the lives of alienated transgender sex workers  thats very cool and nonviolent as well :)
i should totally not be angry about how you try to hurt kids man!!! because you only support the harm of children in the coolest and most modern ways that are definitely way more acceptable in our society!! i would say you attack the safety of children in possibly THE most modern way and i do respect your openly expressed desire to place your theoretical gender politics above the safety of children!!!
its SO GREAT AND HARMLESS that terfs try to contextualize their violence against trans people in ways that society might deem more acceptable!!!! i love how you try to hide your manipulative and abusive behavior behind a veil of theoretical politics its very cute and loveable!! because when you intentionally try to conceal the harm you’re doing people are less likely to oppose you which is great!!! its almost like you’re not actively trying to destroy people’s lives!!! let’s all shut up so trans exclusionary radical feminists can attack the existence of women and children!!! because it’s harmless and that’s what they love to do!!
Janice Raymond is literally the reason we can’t have nice things. Like medical care.
And there you go
isn’t it funny how you can say “pizza is important” or “friends are important” and nobody has any beef with that but as soon as you say “trans women are important” people are so fucking desperate to yell “dont you mean EVERYBODY is important????”
*cis voice* i think u are generalizing here
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I have taken the liberty of changing the shit you FUCKED UP but someone should have been on this and I’m INCREDIBLY disappointed on the whole that this post showed up on my dash with the text it did.
friends let’s talk about a little thing called transmisogyny. This brand of it we are looking at is covered in “biological essentialism”, which tells us that certain body parts define certain aspects of identity. this is actually NOT TRUE. Adding a penis to a female dentist, architect or lawyer does not actually raise the amount of money a person makes because despite what transmisogynistic feminists want you to believe, the penis is not the source of power. I’ll repeat that: penises are not a source of power. Having a dick does not magically give you male privilege.
There are women with penises. There are women with penises. There are women with penises. And they are actually less likely to hold jobs that make a significant amount of money, because they are less likely to be hired. Because they experience both misogyny and transmisogyny.
Also, while we are on the topic of intersectionalism, are we talking starting salaries for white women only? Averages of women across the board? Because white women make a significant amount more money than women of color, particularly Black and Hispanic women.
Intersectionality matters. Your feminism fails unless it includes ALL women, including those who have penises.
literally, the reason people don’t find traits coded as Looking Trans attractive is because of cissexism and transmisogyny. the only reason those traits have any particular significance in the first place is because they’re considered transgressive in the same way trans people are considered transgressive, and trans women are considered ESPECIALLY transgressive, which is why you get people talking about how they could find trans men attractive but never trans women. i’m not saying it’s easy to unlearn shit about what an acceptable body looks like, but come on. attraction is cultural, and you can’t pretend that it’s coincidental that a culture that punishes people for transgressing its rules about gender (which depend on the idea of rigid gender classes as a means of enacting and justifying oppression) would consider the very fact of looking trans unappealing
Most people are unaware that symptoms of heart attacks in females are different than those of males. Please signal boost. (Based on this post, information from WebMD.)
Memorize this shit. No lie. You would be terrified by the number of people, even in healthcare, who have no idea that heart attack symptoms present differently for females.
I wouldn’t be alive today if my heart attack hadn’t been “male” enough that it was recognizable.
This goes for anyone whose bodies don’t fit the cis male mold.
This is totally important and relevant for cis women! Misogyny in the medical field is horrible and fucked up and can lead to a whole shitton of deaths and medical complications and the reason stuff like this isn’t well know is misogyny AGH.
BUT this kind of cissexism can really screw over trans* people, ESPECIALLY trans* women. “Female,” as used like this infographic, generally makes the assumption that “females” have ALL of the following biological characteristics:
- an estrogen based sex-hormone system
- XX chromosomes
- a uterus
- a pair of ovaries and fallopian tubes
- a whole other bunch of developmental characteristics that are usually associated with XX chromosomes
- a vagina
- lack of testes/a prostate/a penis
This assumption is hella innaccurate and misguided and cissexist and anti-intersex and ugh. We desperately NEED research into WHAT causes the difference in heart attack systems. Is it a hormone cascade involving estrogen? A Y-linked trait (not implying that’s what I think it is, just an example)? Testosterone? Some sort of uterus-produced reaction? WHAT IS GOING ON?
Does this infographic apply to trans* women who are taking anti-androgrens but not estrogren? Or who take both and still have testicles? Or a trans* person who once took hormones that aren’t normally associated with the assigned sex at birth, but now don’t anymore? Does this apply to trans* men who take testosterone and no longer have a uterus? Or what about a person with androgen insensitivity syndrome?
There’s no answer because medicine and medical research as it stands is horribly cissexist and transmisogynistic and anti-intersex and just blergh blergh blergh.
So yeah, no, this doesn’t apply to “anyone whose bodies don’t fit the cis male mold” because no one has ever bother to care enough about non-cis and non-dyadic people enough to look into what causes “sex differences.”
Thank fucking god someone said it because if I had to see this fucking infographic pass by my dash one more fucking time minus talk on this, I was going to goddamn explode
Don’t address someone cisgendered or cisgendered AND heterosexual as cishet, especially if you’re trans* or have any sort of non-binary gender identification or sexuality.
Well the main reason is, doesn’t cishet really resemble a somewhat coined version of “cis shit”? Slang may be faster to write and easier to use, and a coin of “cis” and “hetero” may SEEM innocent, but that doesn’t mean that all slang isn’t offensive. The first time I saw this word, I thought it was derogatory. Doesn’t that tell you something about this word? Besides, it isn’t even the correct formal term. Trans* is a shortened correct formal word for transgendered or transsexual, and cis is a shortened version of cisgendered and cissexual, but cishet is NOT. It is SLANG. The correct terms are “cisgendered” “cissexual” and “heterosexual”. Don’t coin words, especially when they look or sound derogatory. The use of this word being mainly by non-binary gendered Social Justice Warriors with an air of hypocrisy and hate toward cisgendered individuals further solidifies that this word is possibly quite offensive.
Another thing; just because someone is a non binary gender or sexuality, that doesn’t make them better than anyone. You are just like everyone else, and using semi derogatory terms or looking down on a specific group of people, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE THE MAJORITY, is not okay, and it makes you a horrible person. Being horrible and treating the majority group poorly for “oppressing” you is not okay and does not validate being a horrible human being towards someone. Murdering someone for the same reason would not validate the murder or make you innocent, so why is it different for hate speech? I realize that nonbinary individuals have gone through a lot, but my goodness, that isn’t an excuse to treat people poorly. Treat everyone the way you want to be treated. No one is better than someone else. We are all people, and we all have feelings.
Besides. A large chunk of people you are addressing by “cishet” really support your struggles and are trying very hard to understand what you are going through because they want to support you. And you go about and group every cisgendered person under the term “cishet” and talk about how horrible cisgendered people are and how much they “oppress” you? That’s not okay. A lot of cis people support and acknowledge nonbinary individuals and try to bring attention to their cause. And that’s how you react? Lumping them all together under one seemingly derogatory term, and talking about how horrible ALL cis people are? That’s not okay.
You may not find this word derogatory or mean, but to some people, it is. So next time you use this word (well, actually, try not to use it unless you’re 110% sure the person doesn’t find it offensive), please remember that there are people with feelings which you may be hurting. And some of those people might me individuals supporting your cause, so don’t turn around and slap them in the face like that.
please read this entire post it is the most astonishing conspiracy theory twist i have ever seen put on a word that literally just means cisgender heterosexual
i don’t know about you but any word primarily in use by “non-binary gendered Social Justice Warriors” is one that i am all the more inclined to use
haha i have a binary gender and look at this fuckin cishet ha ha ha
"Don’t coin words" is this person for real holy shit
like oh no, you’re getting called something which looks a little bit like ‘cis shit’ on the internet that must be so fucking hurtful
people see me and then literally crack up laughing because trying to represent myself as anything near the way i’m gender existent is fucking laughable to society at large ok i am literally a fucking joke to you people so shut the fuck up about ways in which we’re making you feel momentarily bad (guilt, that feeling is fucking called guilt and you deserve to feel it) on the fucking internet you fucking fucking fucking nerd
i hope you fucking read this you utter piece of shit
Lol that cisfuck’s conspiracy theories are out of this world.<br/><br/>I feel like I’m in the twilight zone
damn I didn’t even think of ‘cis shit’ as a thing I could say now I’m just gonna go with “cishit” 24/7
Fuck transphobia. Fuck sex-shaming. Fuck binarist cis assholes. Fuck coddling straight and cis feelings at the expense of the most vulnerable people in this community. Fuck leaders who care only about them selves. Fuck assimilation and fuck being polite to people who stomp all over you. Fuck it.